Message-Id: <200109021254.VAA17002@neutrino.kek.jp> To: seki cc: opc.nuint01 Subject: Re: The first draft of planning Sessions 5 and 6 Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 21:54:43 +0900 From: Makoto Sakuda <sakuda@neutrino.kek.jp> Dear Seki-san (and Session 5-6 conveners), I added your proposal to the original draft of Session 5-6. Your 2. Result presenters -Monte Carlo - Theoretical Calculations will come to Session 5. I have a general comment on Session 6. I will send some comments on benchmark calculations later in a separate e-mail. I think that before starting Session 6 (Panel discussion), discussion leaders should show concrete subjects to be discussed. During Session 5, we will know some important technical subjects (for example treatment of Fermi-gas or final state interactions etc). At the end of Session 5, we may have a short discussion to summarize the result/problems. We can take 30 minutes coffee break after Session 5 for discussion leaders of Session 6 (Seki,Casper + conveners + Nuclear physicists) to set up subjects for Session 6 or propose a better treatment for the nuclear effects. In addition to techinical problems, there may be general issues like universal Monte Carlo which Dave points out. As long as the subjects are nicely set up, the open discussion at Session 6 will go more smoothly. BTW, Sessions 2 and 4 are being discussed by the relevant conveners and we will report the proposed talks to OPC soon. Regards, M.Sakuda > 5. Comparison of the benchmark MC and theoretical calculations > Conveners: Seki*/Hayato/Casper/H.R.Gallagher Chair: R.Seki, Associate Chair: Y.Hayato Results of the benchmark calculations are presented by: > Generators: > 1) NEUT (Hayato) > 2) NUANCE (Casper) > 3) MINOS/Soudan II (Gallagher) > 4) OPERA/NOMAD/DONUT (Piero Zucchelli for CHORUS MC as Casper suggests?) Theoretical calculations 5) J. Marteau 6) E. Paschos 7) H. Nakamura > Comparison and bench mark calculations: > a) Quasi-elastic Seki-san's Proposed Benchmarck Calculation of Quasi-elastic for nu_mu-Oxygen enter here. *) (nu_mu,mu) inclusive *) (nu_mu,mu p) semi-inclusive > b) Charged pion production > c) Coherent pi0 production > *) It is important that all groups use the same >parameters for the neutrino-nucleon cross sections, for >example, vector and axial form factors. Then, specify which >models or papers they use for nuclear effects (Fermi-gas model >etc). We compare the basic distributions for leptons, >protons or their correlations. - ---discussion--- Coffee break > 6. Panel Discussion Chair, Seki; Associate Chair, D. Casper Discussions includes: V. R. Pandharipande, P. Vogel, K. Kubodera, K. Langanke, G. Garvey etc > Summary and Future Direction may be discussed. -Open Discussion- - --------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:52:41 +0900 (JST) > From: <seki@neutrino.kek.jp> > To: opc.nuint01@neutrino.kek.jp > Subject: The first draft of planning Sessions 5 and 6 > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95LJ1.1b3.1010831184615.25931D-100000@neutrino.kek.jp> > > Folks, > I have given some (initial) thought to Sessions 5 and 6 (Benchmark+Pannel > Discussions) and have composed the first planning draft. Please give me > your comments/suggestions/advise/criticism, so that we can have a better > plan to be discussed at the opc TV conference on Sept. 8. > Thanks. > Seki > p.s. I hate "attachments" in e-mails. > > ********************************** > \documentclass[12pt]{article} > \usepackage{epsfig} > \addtolength{\textheight}{1in} > \addtolength{\textwidth}{1in} > \addtolength{\topmargin}{-0.5in} > \addtolength{\oddsidemargin}{-0.5in} > \pagestyle{empty} > > \begin{document} > \noindent > {\bf A. > Benchmark MC and Theoretical Calculations > of $\nu_\mu-{}^{16}{\rm O}$ Reactions > } > \begin{itemize} > \item Guidelines > \begin{itemize} > \item Make the binning size as small as possible. > \item Draw straight plots (neither semi-log, nor log plots). > \item Use the neutrino-nucleon cross section as specified in the attach > (not shown yet). > \end{itemize} > > > \item[\bf 1. ] $(\nu_\mu,\mu^-)$ inclusive. \\ > \begin{itemize} > \item[\bf a.] Two figures for $E_\nu =$ 1.0 and 2.0 GeV each\\ > $\frac{d\sigma}{d E_\mu}$ > as a function of $E_\mu$ from 0 to 1.0 GeV. > \item[\bf b.] Two figures for $E_\nu =$ 1.0 and 2.0 GeV each\\ > $\frac{d\sigma}{4\pi d(\cos\theta_\mu)}$ > as a function of $\theta_\mu$ from 0 to 60 degree. > \item[\bf c.] Two figures for $E_\nu =$ 1.0 and 2.0 GeV each\\ > $\frac{d^2\sigma}{4\pi d(\cos\theta_\mu)d E_\mu}$ > at $\theta_\mu = 30{}^o$ \\ > as a function of $E_\nu - E_\mu$ from 0 to 500 MeV. > \end{itemize} > > \item[\bf 2. ] $(\nu_\mu,\mu^-p)$ semi-inclusive\\ > \begin{itemize} > \item[\bf a.] Two figures for $E_\nu =$ 1.0 and 2.0 GeV each\\ > $\frac{d\sigma}{d^3p_p}$ ($d^3\vec{k}_\mu$ integrated) > at $\theta_p =$ 60${}^o$ \\ > as a function of $|\vec{p}_p|$ from 0 to 500 MeV/c. > \item[\bf b.] Two figures for $E_\nu =$ 1.0 and 2.0 GeV each\\ > $\frac{d\sigma}{d^3p_p}$ ($d^3\vec{k}_\mu$ integrated) > at $|\vec{p}_p|=$ 500 MeV \\ > as a function of $\theta_p$from 0 to 90${}^o$. > \end{itemize} > \item[\bf 3. ] Pion production > \begin{itemize} > \item (to be shown) > \end{itemize} > > \end{itemize} > > > \bigskip > \bigskip > \bigskip > > %\input{bench.tex} > % > % > % figure > % > \begin{picture}(0,0)% > \epsfig{file=bench.ps,scale=0.5}% > \end{picture}% > %\setlength{\unitlength}{3947sp}% > \setlength{\unitlength}{2000sp}% > % > \begingroup\makeatletter\ifx\SetFigFont\undefined% > \gdef\SetFigFont#1#2#3#4#5{% > \reset@font\fontsize{#1}{#2pt}% > \fontfamily{#3}\fontseries{#4}\fontshape{#5}% > \selectfont}% > \fi\endgroup% > \begin{picture}(6143,3597)(1455,-3433) > \put(7201,-3361){\makebox(0,0)[lb]{\smash{\SetFigFont{20}{24.0}{\rmdefault}{\mddefault}{\updefault}$\vec{p}_p$}}} > \put(1951,-961){\makebox(0,0)[lb]{\smash{\SetFigFont{20}{24.0}{\rmdefault}{\mddefault}{\updefault}$\nu$}}} > \put(5476,-361){\makebox(0,0)[lb]{\smash{\SetFigFont{20}{24.0}{\rmdefault}{\mddefault}{\updefault}$\mu^-$}}} > \put(5776,-1261){\makebox(0,0)[lb]{\smash{\SetFigFont{20}{24.0}{\rmdefault}{\mddefault}{\updefault}$\theta_\mu$}}} > \put(7501,-136){\makebox(0,0)[lb]{\smash{\SetFigFont{20}{24.0}{\rmdefault}{\mddefault}{\updefault}$\vec{k}_\mu$}}} > \put(5926,-2011){\makebox(0,0)[lb]{\smash{\SetFigFont{20}{24.0}{\rmdefault}{\mddefault}{\updefault}$\theta_p$}}} > \put(5551,-2986){\makebox(0,0)[lb]{\smash{\SetFigFont{20}{24.0}{\rmdefault}{\mddefault}{\updefault}$p$}}} > \end{picture} > > \vfill\eject > > \noindent > {\bf B. Format and List of Participants > } > > \begin{itemize} > \item Guidelines > \begin{itemize} > \item Keep showing all (or as many as possible) relevant plots > for comparison by using as many projected screens as possible. > \item Also use one standard OHP for lay-over presentations as needed > during the two sessions. > \item Accept as many comments and questions as possible from the > audience at any time during the sessions. > \end{itemize} > \item {\bf Session 5.} (Chair, Seki; Associate Chair, Y. Hayato) \\ > Results of the benchmark calculations are presented by: > \begin{itemize} > \item Monte Carlo > \begin{itemize} > \item NEUT > \item NUANCE > \item MINOS/Soudan II > \item OPERA/NOMAD/DONUT > \end{itemize} > \item Theoretical calculations > \begin{itemize} > \item J. Marteau > \item E. Paschos > \item H. Nakamura > \item plus? > \end{itemize} > \end{itemize} > \item {\bf Session 6.} (Chair, Seki; Associate Chair, D. Jasper) \\ > Panel discussions are carried out by: > \begin{itemize} > \item V. R. Pandharipande > \item P. Vogel > \item K. Kubodera > \item K. Langanke > \item G. Garvey > \item plus? > \end{itemize} > \end{itemize} > \end{document}
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